Great news! I am already enthusiastic and anxious to see the first release of Tizen.

And on the netbook side the MeeGo neetbook apps in the Intel AppUp center will be compatible and will run unchanged with Tizen netbook. So for those developers who invested in MeeGo for netbooks your apps will continue on Tizen netbooks.

So Qt applications will run on Tizen, right? I have some knowledge and experience with Qt and for me it is important to have the option to develop new Qt app compatible with both MeeGo and the new OS.

Yeah I also hope Qt will still be supported I actually like it a lot and like programming with Qt/C++ even more than messing with HTML and javaScript

Hi , It is very encouraging to know about the Os but, i hope the installation and configuration of OS would be simpler.
.Thanks

If native Qt apps will still be supported out of the box like in MeeGo then it is all fine with me. I'm simply not interested into HTML5.

Thanks for the feedback, there are more specifics to follow, especially next month where you will learn more about the architecture, SDK, development environment, etc. Also we will be providing documentation, guides on library compatibility and mapping between the OS's over the coming weeks and months

@Jure I want to be sure we did not overstate. Qt compatibility as I am told will be between MeeGo netbooks apps & Tizen netbook.

Qt compatibility will be between MeeGo and Tizen netbooks?

So you can confirm the same Qt compatibility regarding the other two big branches Handset and Tablet?

What about other big Linux libraries? Are we able to use those? What about GTK and Python?

What packaging system will Tizen use? .DEB or .RPM ?

@Bob Duffy: I want to be sure we did not overstate. Qt compatibility as I am told will be between MeeGo netbooks apps & Tizen netbook.

This sounds disturbing. Is Qt going to be dropped on handsets and tablets? As a developer I prefer to have a choice and not be forced to use HTML5 only. Also what about architecture? Is Wayland and the rest of the normative Linux stack still in the roadmap, or Tizen plans to go in incompatible self contained route, in Android style approach?

Will it support J2SE, J2ME, Android, or other Java language support?

I just had a look at the numerous posts about Tizen at several forums. Seems that most of the members of the MeeGo community and all of the Qt Dev Network members (surprise, surpise :) ) want to have Qt as a development platform on the new OS. There are a lot of speculations but I share the opinion that for the moment it is better just to wait for official information that should be provided next month.

Every new beginning is difficult but Tizen has a good foundations and good perspectives :)

You CANNOT SAY JUST WAIT.
There are developers and companies currently working with Qt, developing applications for MeeGo (e.g. the Acer with its upcoming M500 tablet and several netbooks).
Do you (including Intel and Tizen) want them to stop their work for an indefinite amount of time?

The above questions are very clear:
Can we use the MeeGo SDK QT on the Tizen platform for phones, tablets and netbooks?
Haven't Tizen and Intel thought about this before they decided?

Based on the vague answer I do fear that QT will be killed for at least the phones and tablets.
Apple and Google are laughing: no one will ever buy a device -certainly not tablet or netbook- if it can only run a fancy HTML5 Web browser and no other applications at all.

So you just ignore about 400.000 Qt developers for a yet to define HTML5 SDK? What a genius decision! Using Qt for desktop development, I had high hopes for using Qt for mobile development, too. So for me I can say, no Qt - no Tizen (by the way - what a silly name).

I am fed up with this kind of mind changing. If a system is nearly ready for the mass market, you kill it off and create a new one. How dumb do you think developers are?

Every year a new OS, with a brand new SDK. So here's my advise to developers: Concentrate on IOS and Android and let the market decide, if there's place for a third system. I wish you much luck in finding developers for Tizen, I am out. Developing for IOS instead. No need to learn a new SDK every year.

Qt for Android!
While Tizen and the W3C are still thinking about HTML5 and ignoring QT, it is indeed the best to move your Qt applications to Android (http://sourceforge.net/p/necessitas/home/necessitas/). Let's support these QtForAndroid guys with there good work.
I am not a Google fan, but at least they do not destroy two years of development work (with QT).

The maths for this are quite simple: no Qt for all range of Tizen devices, me going straight to Android.

Webpage versions of the slides from my speech at Intel's AppUp in Seattle are at
http://www.imagsts.com/IntelElements2011.html

can also be seen (and the whole deck downloaded) at www.slideshow.com
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As for me, this is a really weird move. Basically,
1) You've cheated Qt developers and completely alienated most of them. They will never trust you after this weird move.
2) You're going to re-create platform on non-established technologies when you already have something working. HTML5 haves dozen and half of unresolved shortcomings. I can understand if Meego will be able to also launch HTML5 apps using it's browser, that's fine. But completely new platform, HTML5 only? You're mad?!
3) You're going to abandon already working platform, which is stupid.
4) Wait... couple of years ago there was the same story when moblin + maemo be replaced with meego. What would prevent this story from repeating after yet another year or two, huh?
5) Platform haves really moron name. Amazing.
6) It is a cheap ripoff of android idea but even worse implementation.
7) WebOS from HP has failed with exactly same OS design, aren't they?! I do not see how Tizen is different in this regard.
8) I do not need it, I see no fun in dealing with a cheap fake of Android but based on HTML5 instead which is governed by some insane managers who decided that "HTML5 is cool". Then when year or two passes, they may decide that "something else is even more cool" and then iteration would repeat itself, yeah?

All, it’s been a fast past week at Elements, sorry for not engaging sooner on some of the questions. Thanks for your candor and I believe some of the technical questions will be answered over coming weeks as Tizen.org & the Linux Foundation provide more information on the architecture, APIs, & SDK for Tizen.

Per existing MeeGo projects from vendors, device manufacturers, etc we are engaged to transition work.

Per HTML5, Imad provides some info in his post https://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2011/whats-next-meego. And as Imad re-stated in the fireside chat at Elements the goal is to not have a perceivable difference between a hybrid HTML5 app for Tizen, and a native Tizen app. As we move forward with HTML5 and an SDK for Tizen we will provide more details behind this goal.

Qt is a great cross platform development framework, however as Tizen moves forward to support the compute continuum; the Linux Foundation has an eye to development standards that are being adopted by the ecosystem and developers, as scalable solutions across devices and platforms. The end goal for all of us is to see Tizen on many devices, supported by multiple carriers and easily accessible for mobile developers. We are very pleased many Qt developers have engaged with the AppUp developer program, having followed from Maemo to MeeGo. We hope you will continue to support our efforts for Tizen as an open governance cross-device software platform.

As a former small business owner myself I understand that investing in a new path is not to be taken lightly. However with AppUp our history has been to provide a number of ways to get apps on devices, many being innovative community solutions.

So, there are more details to come, more innovation to be had. Know, we appreciate your candor and feedback. It is always welcome here. We’ve started a new Tizen forum and encourage you to continue the conversation with us, and our developer community. http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/forums/tizen

"The end goal for all of us is to see Tizen on many devices, supported by multiple carriers and easily accessible for mobile developers."

Wasn't that the goal of the last mobile OS (MeeGo) and the one(s) before that (Maemo/Mobilin) and the one before that (LiMo)?

Maemo was a decent OS. The transition to MeeGo killed Nokia (OK so they're not dead yet). New devices were delayed 2 years waiting then they release the N9 which is really Maemo that is MeeGo compatible. MeeGo it appears has another year to bake but progress was being made. Now you're scrapping it and starting over. The SDK will be available sometime next year at which time nobody will care. Someone mentioned that WebOS took the same route and they're dead too. Maybe it's a good idea but what killed WebOS is the fact that you can't create every app needed using javascript. Perhaps a better route would have been to get MeeGo out the door and release the HTML5 SDK for it so we could create HTML5 apps when it made sense?

Something tells me this was not a technology decision and that nobody wanted to be involved with a Nokia developed OS that they abandoned (because it wasn't good enough).

I'll predict that Tizen IS MeeGo with Wayland and a WebKit web browser running the gui.

I am looking foward to playing with an ISO of Tizen when it becomes avaliable .... Hopefully very soon.

I agree with people saying they don't like things changing up like the MeeGo ----> Tizen. I am a newer member and I wonder if they notified us all about the up coming change to Tizen. How suddenly was it thrown out there? Or was the Seattle Elements the announcement? -- I can feel your pain if there was 0 warning and then Bamb it switched up.

Will there be a overlaping timeframe were both are on the market? Will people get confused?

But on the flip side. I think that new platforms, backed by strong industry players like Intel, will need How-Too books or informative help books on Tizen OS. This could be something $$$ for people.

If someone famouse would do an endorcement.. like the President or someone famouse. I think most EVERYone knows the INTEL jingle ... And it has become iconic in nature. Tizen needs this to succeed. Something memorable, simple, something people will associate to the brand.

Hope Tizen impresses any doubters.